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Obama plays the race card

Postby platypusman » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:13 am

Obama says John McCain and Republicans are racists. This is over the top!

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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby RBarnes » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:33 am

platypusman wrote:Obama says John McCain and Republicans are racists. This is over the top!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/ ... 6&src=news


This was predicted months ago that it would happen.

Another prediction I've heard is that if Obama starts trailing in the polls (which he is slowly starting to) that we'll see "threats" of race riots if he loses.
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby platypusman » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:52 am

One such blog has raised the issue you speak of.

I just think it is terrible for Obama to act this way and say McCain is racist. When caught, he would not come out and apologize, he had his surrogates do that.


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/Aust ... ica_suffer

If Obama Loses In November, Will America Suffer?
Austin Hill
Sunday, July 20, 2008

What will happen if, on election night in November, John McCain wins the presidency? Will it necessarily be determined that Obama’s defeat is the result of a conspiracy? A fraud? Or something worse?

Much has been said and written in recent months about the historical and cultural significance of the Obama nomination, and the would-be Obama presidency. Obama, himself, seems to place no limits on his own historical and cultural significance. At age 46, he has already authored two books - - both are about himself - - and the securing of his party’s nomination marked, according to him, the moment when our nation began to “heal..”

But what if Obama’s seemingly inevitable destiny - - that of “change agent President” - - was abruptly cut short? I’m not hinting here at the possibility of an assassin’s bullet (I’ll leave it to Hillary Clinton to suggest such things). I’m merely stating the obvious. The first Black American to secure the presidential nomination of a major political party could end up losing the election. If that were to happen, then what would the historical and cultural significance of that event be?

I first raised this question about five months ago, during some of the ugliest days of Obama’s primary election struggle with the race-baiting Clintons. In a private conversation over lunch in Washington, a friend and former Bush Administration staffer told me “Obama is a much more formidable candidate than many Republicans think. And while I disagree with him on policy issues, there is part of me that really believes that electing this guy President would go a long way towards healing the black-white rift in our country.”

“But does the inverse of that hold true?” I asked. “If he

makes it to the general election but then loses, are black-white relations made worse?”

“I don’t want to think about that” my friend replied after a long pause. “There could be trouble in the streets.”

That was in February. And since that conversation, I’ve repeatedly experienced people hinting at similar concerns in a variety of different contexts. I see it in email messages from readers of this column. I hear it from listeners to my own talk radio program at Washington, DC’s 630 WMAL, and the many other talk shows I guest host around the country.

And this past week I heard it in the most explicit terms. While speaking with a friend who is a yacht broker in the affluent Santa Monica coastal region of Southern California, I asked “what do people in your circles have to say about the presidential election? Are they even talking about it? What do they say?”

“Yes, people are talking about it” my friend assured me. “It’s assumed that Obama will win. But if he doesn’t, there’s a fear that South-Central LA will erupt in riots, kind of like what happened after the trial of the cops that beat Rodney King in 1992.”

I’m not a conspiracy theorist or alarmist. But I do believe that current cultural and political conditions are such that a McCain “victory” in November could create, at the very least, some significant tension in our society, if not outright civil unrest. Much of my concern has to do with a rather skewed, subjective, and selfish view of the notion of “injustice” that Obama himself has propagated throughout his campaign.

Think about it. On both implicit and explicit levels, Obama’s rhetoric suggests that the annoyances, the risks, the hardships and insecurities of your existence are the result of various injustices done to you, and that he alone can correct those injustices.

If a business executive earns exponentially more money than you do, this is an injustice and he will correct it. If you bought a house and are now having difficulty making the payments, this is an injustice and he will correct it. If you do not have “free healthcare,” this is an injustice and he will correct it. The fact that nuclear weapons exist in the world is an injustice, and he will correct it. If you purchased toys imported from China that turned out to be defective, that is an injustice and he will correct it (yes, he actually delivered a speech entitled “Safer Toys For Our Children” in Iowa last December, two days after Christmas). And if you believe, as he apparently does, that “rich people” just simply “have too much already,” well that is most certainly an injustice and he will correct it.

Combine these dynamics of entitlement and “justice” with the reality that we live in an era of historical and constitutional illiteracy, and it’s not difficult to imagine how anything short of an Obama presidency could be viewed by some in America as yet another injustice. And if Obama’s inevitable destiny is disrupted by something so trivial as the American electorate, this could be deemed an injustice that trumps all others.
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby Sybil Spence Rocca » Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:21 am

RBarnes wrote:
platypusman wrote:Obama says John McCain and Republicans are racists. This is over the top!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/ ... 6&src=news


This was predicted months ago that it would happen.

Another prediction I've heard is that if Obama starts trailing in the polls (which he is slowly starting to) that we'll see "threats" of race riots if he loses.



Oh! It's going to horrible! Whether Obama wins or loses there will be DANGER for the WHITE man! That's why you'd better start making your plans all you republicans. Make 'em now to get yourselves out of the country because it's not going to be pretty! Very well could be the end of civilization.

Those pesky BLACKS will be rioting in the streets (all the while blaring their RAP music!)

My best advise to you all is to run for your lives...

ME? Oh, if I'm still here, I'll just hide behind my husband's Italian heritage! To use another stereo-type, those Blacks just worship the Italian Mafia - They all have posters of Scarface, Tony Soprano and The Godfather in the "cribs". so we'll be cool!

We have one forum member who is obssessed with the illegals crossing the border of Mexico/U.S - Well, this problem will be cured as you all know how the black gangs and the Mexican gangs hate each other - Well, the BLACKS will have ALL the Mexicans (Americans or not) killed!

Ka-Boom! Gorrillas in the Mist! They're comin' to get you all!

Leave the country while you can. I wouldn't count on McCain winning the presidency to save you. You all know how rigging the elections has been perfected over the years.

Gosh! I'm wearing myself out with this sarcasm! But, I just can't seem to help myself when I keep reading the racist crap that's posted here!

Hope you all have a great weekend. :lol:
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby Sybil Spence Rocca » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:06 pm

platypusman wrote:One such blog has raised the issue you speak of.

I just think it is terrible for Obama to act this way and say McCain is racist. When caught, he would not come out and apologize, he had his surrogates do that.


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/Aust ... ica_suffer

If Obama Loses In November, Will America Suffer?
Austin Hill
Sunday, July 20, 2008

What will happen if, on election night in November, John McCain wins the presidency? Will it necessarily be determined that Obama’s defeat is the result of a conspiracy? A fraud? Or something worse?

Much has been said and written in recent months about the historical and cultural significance of the Obama nomination, and the would-be Obama presidency. Obama, himself, seems to place no limits on his own historical and cultural significance. At age 46, he has already authored two books - - both are about himself - - and the securing of his party’s nomination marked, according to him, the moment when our nation began to “heal..”

But what if Obama’s seemingly inevitable destiny - - that of “change agent President” - - was abruptly cut short? I’m not hinting here at the possibility of an assassin’s bullet (I’ll leave it to Hillary Clinton to suggest such things). I’m merely stating the obvious. The first Black American to secure the presidential nomination of a major political party could end up losing the election. If that were to happen, then what would the historical and cultural significance of that event be?

I first raised this question about five months ago, during some of the ugliest days of Obama’s primary election struggle with the race-baiting Clintons. In a private conversation over lunch in Washington, a friend and former Bush Administration staffer told me “Obama is a much more formidable candidate than many Republicans think. And while I disagree with him on policy issues, there is part of me that really believes that electing this guy President would go a long way towards healing the black-white rift in our country.”

“But does the inverse of that hold true?” I asked. “If he

makes it to the general election but then loses, are black-white relations made worse?”

“I don’t want to think about that” my friend replied after a long pause. “There could be trouble in the streets.”

That was in February. And since that conversation, I’ve repeatedly experienced people hinting at similar concerns in a variety of different contexts. I see it in email messages from readers of this column. I hear it from listeners to my own talk radio program at Washington, DC’s 630 WMAL, and the many other talk shows I guest host around the country.

And this past week I heard it in the most explicit terms. While speaking with a friend who is a yacht broker in the affluent Santa Monica coastal region of Southern California, I asked “what do people in your circles have to say about the presidential election? Are they even talking about it? What do they say?”

“Yes, people are talking about it” my friend assured me. “It’s assumed that Obama will win. But if he doesn’t, there’s a fear that South-Central LA will erupt in riots, kind of like what happened after the trial of the cops that beat Rodney King in 1992.”

I’m not a conspiracy theorist or alarmist. But I do believe that current cultural and political conditions are such that a McCain “victory” in November could create, at the very least, some significant tension in our society, if not outright civil unrest. Much of my concern has to do with a rather skewed, subjective, and selfish view of the notion of “injustice” that Obama himself has propagated throughout his campaign.

Think about it. On both implicit and explicit levels, Obama’s rhetoric suggests that the annoyances, the risks, the hardships and insecurities of your existence are the result of various injustices done to you, and that he alone can correct those injustices.

If a business executive earns exponentially more money than you do, this is an injustice and he will correct it. If you bought a house and are now having difficulty making the payments, this is an injustice and he will correct it. If you do not have “free healthcare,” this is an injustice and he will correct it. The fact that nuclear weapons exist in the world is an injustice, and he will correct it. If you purchased toys imported from China that turned out to be defective, that is an injustice and he will correct it (yes, he actually delivered a speech entitled “Safer Toys For Our Children” in Iowa last December, two days after Christmas). And if you believe, as he apparently does, that “rich people” just simply “have too much already,” well that is most certainly an injustice and he will correct it.

Combine these dynamics of entitlement and “justice” with the reality that we live in an era of historical and constitutional illiteracy, and it’s not difficult to imagine how anything short of an Obama presidency could be viewed by some in America as yet another injustice. And if Obama’s inevitable destiny is disrupted by something so trivial as the American electorate, this could be deemed an injustice that trumps all others.



This is not only racist; This is insane! If you Platypusman subscribe to this, you too are insane.

I'm trying to keep my sense of humor with all of this.

Hitler was insane. You Platy seem to have an intolerance for any and everything that isn't white or military.
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby RBarnes » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:39 pm

Sybil, why do you see it as so far fetched?

Back in April Obama fans already poised the opposite theory on Oprah's message forum:

"Will "Hillary supporters" go away quietly if Obama wins the presidential nomination? It takes less than that to trigger some kind of race uproar."

Followed by:

"As this race seems to have turned into a 'race' issue... admittedly or not; isn't it usually the end result that riots are incited? And if you will note, riots aren't incited by caucasians nor hispanics."

http://www.oprah.com/community/communit ... iscussions

There were riots over Rodney King, threats of riots over OJ, Fontana high school etc... riots have been caused by far less.

Heck Obama himself has even played the riot card already saying Bush's actions have created a "quiet riot" that threatens to erupt in this country.
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby Sybil Spence Rocca » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:57 pm

Gosh Rick,

You've left me fairly speechless. I guess all I can say to you is I hope there is a riot somewhere for you. You seem to be looking forward to one so much and I wouldn't want you to be disappointed. So, hopefully (God willing) Some people of color (can't promise you that they will be black) will riot somewhere near or around the election so that you will be happy.

Oh yeah,

Can McCain or Obama help what "Joe Blogger" may say on any given site? Neither one has control of that.

Quite Riot? Definition Please? I know it was a rock band, but other than that, what do you think that implies?
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby RBarnes » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:20 pm

Sybil Spence Rocca wrote:Quite Riot? Definition Please? I know it was a rock band, but other than that, what do you think that implies?


http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/07/martin/

Here's CCN's explanation of a quiet riot.
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby Sybil Spence Rocca » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:39 pm

Thanks Rick,

I've posted this in case anyone wants to read:


By Roland S. Martin
CNN contributor

Editor's note: Roland S. Martin is a CNN contributor and a talk-show host for WVON-AM in Chicago.

(CNN) -- Conservative critics have been lighting up the airwaves and blogs for the last 48 hours after Sen. Barack Obama's speech to the Hampton University Annual Ministers' Conference raised the combustible topic of the burning anger among the nation's poor African-Americans.

Much of this was the result of a terrible story written by Bob Lewis of The Associated Press, who wrote in his lead that "Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Tuesday that the Bush administration has done nothing to defuse a 'quiet riot' among blacks that threatens to erupt just as riots in Los Angeles did 15 years ago."

After seeing the story I was stunned to read such a thing, and immediately sought the transcript of Obama's speech. In reading it, Obama used the word riot nine times; the phrase "quiet riot" three times; and never suggested that America was on the verge of seeing African-Americans lash out like they did during the Los Angeles riots in 1992.

But what he did try to do was give the 8,000 attendees, and anyone else watching, an understanding of what is a real problem in America's inner cities. And more importantly, his blueprint for fixing the problem.

"(Quiet riots) happen when a sense of disconnect settles in and hope dissipates," according to a written version of his speech. "Despair takes hold and young people all across this country look at the way the world is and believe that things are never going to get any better.

"You tell yourself, my school will always be second rate. You tell yourself, there will never be a good job waiting for me to excel at. You tell yourself, I will never be able to afford a place that I can be proud of and call my home.

"That despair quietly simmers and makes it impossible to build strong communities and neighborhoods. And then one afternoon a jury says, 'not guilty' -- or a hurricane hits New Orleans -- and that despair is revealed for the world to see."

We all saw what that looks like when Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, and it was ugly and sad. Even worse was our government's response to the crisis.

But folks, this goes on every day. And we do a very good job of pretending that it doesn't matter.

Check out what often quoted conservative "thinker" Dinesh D'Souza had to say about this: "A quiet riot. Now certainly that's the best kind of riot, because no buildings get burned and nobody gets stampeded or knifed or shot. And if it's a really quiet riot, then we don't even have to listen to shouting and can continue to work or read or watch TV without disruption. It would really be nice if all riots could be quiet riots."

See, guys like D'Souza, who know nothing about the conditions of the nation's urban poor, want to sit in their ivory towers and pretend that if you just read, write and work hard, all will be well. And there is no doubt that the work ethic and willingness to do better is paramount, and encouraged -- even by African-Americans. But it's also critical to know that there are many who are working and working and working, and don't seem to be making any headway.

I don't sit in a think tank and write papers and books like D'Souza and these other wholly ignorant conservative bloggers. In fact, most of my time is spent at 1000 E. 87th St., in the heart of Chicago's South Side. That's the headquarters of WVON, where I host a morning talk show. When I ran the Dallas Weekly, it was on the South Side of Dallas on Martin Luther King Drive (Why is it that the black parts of town are always on the south side? Maybe because north means going up and south means going down).

And what Obama spoke of I see every day. I can look out our bay window and see men and women going to work each day, trying to make ends meet, and they often don't. I see women walking their kids to school just to keep them safe, but inevitably, some don't come home, like the 31 students from Chicago Public Schools who have been murdered this year. Oh, I definitely see the urban terrorists -- gang members and drug dealers -- who tear the fabric of the black community apart with their rampant violence.

People shouldn't have to endure "quiet riots." They should be shouting from the rooftops, and we should hear their pleas. See, if someone is stranded on a roof and the tides are rising, if they want to be rescued two things must happen: One, they must make themselves visible for the helicopter to see. Second, the helicopter must lower a line to help them up. The pilot can't hook up the belt and do all the work; the individual must be a willing participant.

Obama gave a voice to the voiceless. As he said, they must do their part. They must work hard to escape poverty by going to school, do a good job at work and not be involved in crime.

Let's not treat them as if they are nonexistent. If we remain quiet in the face of chronic conditions, shame on us for saying, "God bless America." Because we surely we are not being a blessing to our fellow Americans.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the writer. This is part of an occasional series of commentaries on CNN.com that offers a broad range of perspectives, thoughts and points of view.
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby TCF » Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:51 pm

1.If you think Obama's the most liberal member of the senate you...may be a racist.

2.If you object to Obama raising your payroll, capital gains and estate taxes you...may be a racist.

3.If you'd prefer a president have at least some foreign policy experience you...may be a racist.

4. If you're in favor of drilling for oil and building nuclear power plants you...may be a racist.

5. If you think "Vero Possemus" is Latin for "Massive Ego" you... may be a racist.

6. If you wonder why Obama was hanging around William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn you...may be a racist.

7. If your pastor is nothing like Rev. Wright or Father Pfleger you... may be a racist.

8.If you don't want the majority of justices on the Supreme Court to be like Stephen Breyer you...may be a racist.

9. If you're not impressed with Obama's 100% NARAL rating you...may be a racist.

10. If you're not sure whether Obama opposed or supported FISA reauthorization you...may be a racist.

11. If you don't think America is a "downright mean" country you...may be a racist.

12. If you think Obama should've visited wounded troops at Ramstein and Landstuhl you...may be a racist.

13. If you think the surge is working and that's a good thing you...may be a racist.

14. If you oppose racial preferences in employment, school admissions and contracting you...may be a racist.

15. If you think "we are the change we've been waiting for" is a line from a Monty Python skit you...may be a racist.

16. If you prefer that a president have a smidgen of executive experience you...may be a racist.

17. If you're appalled that Obama voted against treating infants born after an abortion attempt the same medically as other infants born alive you...may be a racist.

18. If you were proud of your country even before Obama's candidacy you...may be a racist.

20. If you don't think American troops are just "air raiding villages" you...may be a racist.

21. If your grandmother isn't a "typical white person" you...may be a racist.

22. If you don't think rural, working class people are bitter and "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them" you...may be a racist.

23. If you're not sure invading Pakistan is a particularly good idea—what with their nuclear weapons and all— you...may be a racist.

24. If you don't want the president to meet without precondition with the leaders of state sponsors of terror you...may be a racist.

25. If you don't care how Hollywood or the European elite think you should vote you...may be a racist.
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby RD » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:47 am

I hope you, like everyone else reading your nonsense, realize that you're actually the one "playing the race card."
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Re: Obama plays the race card

Postby TCF » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:00 am

RD wrote:I hope you, like everyone else reading your nonsense, realize that you're actually the one "playing the race card."


Of course I am, pretty funny though, considering I live with a women of color. But of course I just keep her around to do the menial things around the house, you know, dishes, laundry cooking etc. Now if I can only get her to stop talking in her sleep at night, whispering Obama save me Lord Barrack, save me from this evil conservative. Obama, Ohhhhhhhhh.
Its amazing to me how libs live in a world like yours thinking everyone is racist when it is you that should take a long hard look into the mirror.
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