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Re: Gun Stores

Postby joe179 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:35 am

In Merrimack, why is there such concern about some folks buying and selling firearms? Seems legit to me.

These are not Pawn Shops or Massage Parlors.

I would say the market will determine if they stay in business...
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby David McCray » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:19 pm

Joe, I think this is a case where something new and "different" is happening in town and people are just discussing the issue. Considering how quiet the Forum has been I for one am happy to see some discussion on it.

I do agree with you, as long as they have the proper permits which 'Im sure they do, good luck to them. It is always nice to see 2 less vacant stores in town. Me and my wife actually went to the Firing range in Manchester a few weeks ago and had a nice night out.
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby Tom Mahon » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:59 pm

David,

It's Chapter 130 of the Administrative Code adopted April 9, 2002. It does prohibit the sale but not the use of fireworks in Merrimack. FYI. Hearing the usual good things about the Business Expo.
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby tastyratz » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:27 pm

I as well would love to see supporting data as well. It sounds to me like a fear mongering statistic. Very surprisingly resistive angle from someone saying they are a nra member.

Gun stores generally sell firearms to law abiding responsible citizens who pass a background check. I would not be concerned that one be opened in the town.

We are not talking about something with lack of accessibility - there are many gun stores in a small radius outside of Merrimack. If someone wants a gun for a crime they will go out and get one. Most of the time they are not looking to save gas money by purchasing one near where the crime is to be committed :lol: :lol:

The concern with zoning and radius to a school is valid. I would be surprised if there are no federal restrictions?
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby chancellor » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:58 am

My intention in starting this thread was not based on fear-mongering. As I mentioned, I own guns, I shoot competitively. Riley's is my shop of choice. I am also a retired business owner, so I am a believer in free-markets. All that said, I tend to think about the future of Merrimack and worry that a gun store next to an ice cream store projects the wrong image. While that is the landlord's choice, it's still laughable.

And it will bring an increased crime element - just watch. Merrimack already has the creeps from Manchester leaking into our neighborhoods for break-ins etc. So, all it takes is a creeper to park at rite-aid and follow a gun-buyer home. That gun becomes an easy target when the homeowner is gone and the creeps breaks in. True, most guns are bought by law-abiding folks like myself. But crimes are committed by thugs who steal guns from those same people.

For me, I want to live in a town that works hard to eliminate the crime element. Our police do an amazing job. But this just makes their job harder - twice as hard now with two shops in town. It was said that these are "not pawn shops or massage parlors" or strips clubs or adult stores. But who steps up, if not us, when a pawn store gets ready to set up shop in our town? Have a gander at Manchester or Salem. There's a reason I choose not to leave in those places... I have always believed that Merrimack has a soul unlike many towns, and could be one of greatest towns in the state. It has, however, always grown without conviction, without plans, without vision.

As I write this, I suppose it's less about the gun shops in question -- and more about who we want to be when we grow up.
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby timothy dutton » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:37 am

Amherst and Milford has gun shops and I believe the Gun shop on the Milford Oval is not far from a school and ice cream places. I wonder how many times they have problems? I will bet not many. Merrimack used to have 2 gun shops in town Earls and Johnson's. The two businesses will not have any problems dong business and town and doubt that any problems will be created.
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby RBarnes » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:11 am

Chancellor, again you post a lot of assertions without anything to back them up. Where is the evidence that a gun shop will equate to higher crime rates? In every study I've seen the opposite holds true. In fact I even read one where in Virgina they loosed gun laws so you can now carry them into bars while going out for a drink. You would think the mix of guns and booze would lead to higher crime stats but since then the amount of crimes in the bars has gone down.

I also see the fact that the one store opening in Merrimack being next door to the ice cream parlor as irrelevant. A child walking by and seeing guns is not a bad thing, in fact children should be taught early about guns and more importantly gun safety. Hiding such things from them and preventing any exposure what so ever to "dangerous" things leaves them vulnerable when they do come in contact with them.

Regarding pawn shops, I don't see the reason to fear them either. There's not much difference between a pawn shop and a consignment shop other then one gives money up front and the other you have to wait for the item to sell first and Merrimack has and does have consignment shops.

If a business follows the law and the owner of the property they rent from assuming they don't own has no problem with their location then where's the problem?

Even "adult" stores, if they follow the laws and don't have huge open windows were people walking by see things they shouldn't then wheres the problem? In Nashua there is an adult movie store directly next door to the "Reluctant Dragon" game store. Kids and teens go in and out of the game store all day long and I'm not aware of any issue and in the times I've been there I've never seen any of the kids attempt to even go into the adult store. Heck, they wouldn't see anything they couldn't already find in most video stores which Merrimack had in abundance prior to RedBox and Netflix.

So rather then going back to witch trials and running around in fear let's stick to facts and reality. Neither of which support any reason to be concerned with a law abiding business selling guns in Merrimack regardless of where it's located.
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby tastyratz » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:38 am

I completely am in the same boat as rbarnes,

if anything a local gun store could result in more armed citizens and as a result a reduction in the string of break ins we have had in recent years . It could lead to more apprehensions/arrests. Barnes has already said what I am thinking as well in regards to the choices in business in the area.

If you would like to supply supporting evidence to your conjecture, I would be more than willing to read any studies you are able to furnish. I am not an unreasonable person but until facts and statistics are shown to support then it is indeed no more than fear mongering and conjecture. I am a responsible armed home owner myself. I would hope nobody would follow me home from a gun store knowing I was armed, and stupid enough to break into my house to try to find my gun. I might still be home, and I am willing to bet I find my gun first...
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby Fitzie » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:04 pm

I have a 12, 16 and a little 20 gauge, all 3 of which I use to deafen ruffed grouse as they continue their flight away from me and my gun dog. :cry:

My take on gun shops is no two are the same and my guess is the inventory they carry plays a large role in any of the suggested correlation between their existence and crime in a given area. I know a gun is a gun is a gun BUT my intuition tells me that bad guys aren't looking to embark on thier life of crime weilding an antique single-shot 410.
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby tooth350 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:18 am

haha dave you'r memory isn't going downhill, you probaley remember what color socks you had on at high school prom. haha
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby tooth350 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:30 am

If you start restricting which business can come here, it won't be long before someone will propose no alcohol, tobacco,heck maybe no smelly gas station also, As far as no selling fireworks but not using them is stupid and restrictive enough, i say repeal that stupid one. Look back at all the old laws like in virgina you can't ride a horse across the Chesapeake bay, now the bay is 26 miles across and whom in their right mind would attempt that? Its time rational thought took over in this town along with freedom of living.
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby Rover51 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:17 pm

I'm a resident of Merrimack and been one since 1981. I've seen a variety of businesses come and go in Merrimack
since I first moved here. I read some of the posts here concern the "troubles" of having TWO ACTUAL gun stores in
Merrimack.

I've visited both places and they are both well run by responsible individuals who's only desire is to run lawful
business in Merrimack ( and maybe make a little money). The staffs of both places are well educated in the laws as it pertains to NH and Federal laws concern gun sales. The two shops differ only in the type of guns they sell and the customers they wish to attract.

Both of them are within "walking distance" of schools.. however I doubt that either of these two stores get much ..if any... foot traffic customers from the school students. I haven't heard of Merrimack having an "image'
problem and I highly doubt that the addition of these two new stores will destroy the one we currently have.

For me it comes down simply to two new businesses openning up in town. If they get customers they will succeed,
if they don't they will close. They provide a sales/service that the town did not have and some people are glad to
see. I'm glad they are open and I wish them well and hope they are successful.

P.S. I am not a Gun owner nor do I belong to the NRA... I was curious about the places so I stopped in to see what all
the worry and concern was about... my view as to the worry and concern .... "much to do about nothing"
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby Debra Huffman » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:06 am

Rover, I believe Chancellor was the only person expressing worry and concern and it seems that he was mostly raising it as a point of discussion.

Based on the small sampling on this forum, the vast majority of the people in this town believe they are good businesses and we wish them the best of luck.
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby Phil Straight » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:39 pm

Guns are not as dangerous as socialists, and we let a handfull of them run around loaded, and with no license. Fitzie, help me stir the pot. OK?
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Re: Gun Stores

Postby Fitzie » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:42 pm

Wrong topic for me Phil. I'm that rare liberal who owns guns. :lol: :lol:
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